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    I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:35 pm

    How is telling someone to be patient rude? It's hard to be nice to
    people who treat me like a tortured dog on the side of the road. I've
    been cussed at, made fun of, and treated like a rag doll. Would you be
    nice to someone who treated you like this? I'm trying to be nice, and
    use CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, but all my frustration is going to build and
    build until I just let it all out.
    I would have posted this on "The End" post, but I would've gotten warned for going off-topic, when I'm not the only one who does it. I feel like I'm being targeted, by Kai, by Andy, by pretty much everyone on this forum. I'm being picked on, and I don't appreciate it.


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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by Jigglypuff on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:05 pm

    NOT SAYING IT'S RUDE JUST SAYING YOU'RE TELLING SOMEONE TO BE PATIENT WHEN YOU'RE ACTING IMPATIENT "oRly? U mean until FKING SUMMER?!"

    Okay... first of all; your first impression of yourself you gave to us.. was not very good. You constantly asked for "WHEN SERVER UP!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE JESSSE GET HIM FASTER OMG FUK IM GONA DIE WITHOUT MAPLE" when you could have asked in a nicer and neater way... To be honest, you were getting on my nerves and I can easily see why Kai targets you. Then, you act like you've been beaten and starved to or something with your "sob" stories. I'm sorry but that just seems like you want attention or something...
    You made a lot of posts that gave us a negative impression towards you as you constantly broke rules during your first posts.
    I was trying to be patient myself because you constantly asked server related questions that were kinda obvious which kinda annoyed me... "when serv up" "serv up now????????????????" "omg serv down till fukin summer omg fuq im gonna die!!!!!!!!!!!!!" We all actually have things to do such as school work and other shit. Give us a break... If the server is gonna be down for a long term, then DEAL WITH IT. If you can't, MAKE YOUR OWN OR JOIN ANOTHER.

    use CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM

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    Post by K∀i→Lαζ on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:36 pm

    Quit shitposting, you cumguzzling thunder cunt.

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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:43 pm

    First of all, I never said *OMG I'M GONNA DIE WITHOUT MAPLE!* Stop putting words in my mouth. Sorry if I don't understand some things, so I ask questions to whoever does understand it. I asked nicely about TWENTY TIMES and no one answered. Just like I've had a request for someone to teleport one of my stuck characters up for about 2 months and nothing has happened. It shouldn't take you that long to do homework and crap. I broke rules during my first posts because I didn't know where the rules were, and no one bothered to tell me. Apparently everyone here is a liar, because everyone has told me "Everyone is welcome here!" but I don't get that impression from a lot of people, I'm more shunned than welcomed.


    Everything I post is not shitposting. I posted it in the right place.

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    Post by Drifblim on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:49 pm

    rynoy wrote:Everything I post is not shitposting. I posted it in the right place.


    Not entirely true, I've seen you post irrelevant posts on threads that have completely nothing to do with your posts.

    Ex - Luigifan1442's Support thread in the Download/Installation section.

    rynoy wrote:Wish teh server would still be up D:


    That post has nothing to do with his problem, just how you're wanting of the server to be up.
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    P.S - You've necroposted multiple times.

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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:01 pm

    Maybe you don't think it's relevant, because you don't think the same way I do. It's entirely relevant.

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    Post by K∀i→Lαζ on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:12 pm

    Just shut up, shit poster.

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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:15 pm

    Define: Shitposting

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    Post by K∀i→Lαζ on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:16 pm

    rynoy wrote:Define: Shitposting
    I don't feel like it.

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    Post by Jigglypuff on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:17 pm

    First of all, I never said *OMG I'M GONNA DIE WITHOUT MAPLE!* Stop putting words in my mouth.

    exaggeration

    It shouldn't take you that long to do homework and crap.

    Uhh try saying that to people at my school... I actually do ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL INSTEAD OF SITTING ON THE COMPUTER WAITING FOR A CRAPPY SERVER......................

    I asked nicely about TWENTY TIMES and no one answered.

    probably asked some obvious stuff like "is server up" "where is jesse"


    This is Derek #2 omg........



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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:19 pm

    Then you can't tell me I'm shitposting. I can't stop/preventing myself from "shitposting" if I don't know what it means.

    Don't call me someone I'm not, I don't appreciate it.
    I do other activities outside of school. I do marching band, I do basketball and baseball. I go hang out with my friends, I ride my bike, I watch movies. I'm not the indecent person you're making me out to be.


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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by Jigglypuff on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:19 pm

    rynoy wrote:Then you can't tell me I'm shitposting. I can't stop/preventing myself from "shitposting" if I don't know what it means.


    shitpost
    To make utterly worthless and inane posts on an internet messageboard.

    This guy loves to shitpost all over the forums. Look at this crap:
    TrevorReznick> my posts are only 5.22% of the total posts on this forum




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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by K∀i→Lαζ on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:21 pm

    rynoy wrote:Don't call me someone I'm not, I don't appreciate it.
    But you are a shit poster.

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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by i'm retarded on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:23 pm

    This is a shit poster:
    Spoiler:

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    Re: I'm a faggot.

    Post by AnhDan on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:25 pm

    rynoy wrote:Wish teh server would still be up D:


    rynoy wrote:Maybe you don't think it's relevant, because you don't think the same way I do. It's entirely relevant.


    That quote has NOTHING related to do with what LuigiFan1442's post in the Download/Installation selection.

    In my knowledge, that should have gone into the TROUBLESHOOT section.

    Besides, you should REALLY READ THE RULES MORE OFTEN SO YOU CAN AVOID GETTING INTO TROUBLE

    rynoy wrote:use CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM


    By Goates, sorry Goates.
    Spoiler:
    Contructive Criticism, how it works.


    CnC is Comment and Criticism. Criticism is advice that HELPS you to get better. A lot of people get angry if they read something other than "OH THAT'S SO PRO". Including people I give CnC. But giving people criticism is practically always a good thing.

    Please do not give out this article on forums besides Maplemation and MapleTV. I will murder you if you do >:[.

    RECEIVING CRITICISM


    People don't HAVE to look at your work. They don't need to have an opinion about it. This means that they're doing you a favour when they look at your work. Because honestly, what would you rather have? Someone who takes 5 seconds to look at hours of work and says "OH THAT'S PRO". Or someone who takes his/her time and actually tells you what you can do better. These people are here just to help you. This also means that it's rather rude to tell someone who gives you advice "Fuck off, don't watch it if you don't like it." or "Like you can do it better." The fun part is, you don't have to do something better to give advice. You just need your eyes to say "Oh that's not really pretty."


    You are kind of asking for it, aren't you?


    When you place your work on the internet, you are practically asking for criticism. There are places on the internet where you can't expect anything else than harsh facts without sugarcoating. Never forget, the Internet is an open place to everyone and when you put your work on it, everyone is able to comment on your work. This can be on Deviantart, YouTube or any other forum.

    If you really cannot handle criticism, just place "Please no CnC" in your description. Most of the time, people won't bother with commenting if they read that. Unless they really are haters who want to troll you.


    Someone gave you some CnC, now what?


    First of, let's fully read it without being distracted too much. Read around the harsh words and try not to feel but hurt. If you really think it's too mean and absolutely irrational, just ignore it. If you don't understand what someone is trying to point out, ask. They will not think that you are being defensive. They will simply give you a clearer explanation. If you really have a troll, don't respond to him and don't get people to respond to him. Don't even thank the people responding to him. Just completely ignore it.

    If you really disliked the criticism given, just be polite and place a comment saying thanks. The criticizer is still putting effort in looking at your work, it's worth thanking him even though you disagree with him. DON'T start a fight simply because you feel insulted.

    Because YOU are NOT the greatest artist in the world. So you can't be insulted because there is always a valid point in what people say about you having errors in your work.

    Finding an excuse for everything someone tells you, is simply immature. You are only fooling yourself with comments like "I was lazy", "I was bored" and "My scanner sucks". We have heard them all. You are deluding yourself if you think anyone will fall for it.

    "You create and form, someone who does this has to solve problems, not make them." - Quote from Jeroen, teacher Graphic Design at the MA and freelance Graphic Designer.


    Obviously, you don't always understand what a person is trying to tell you. Don't be afraid to ask. The person will most likely help you, considering he already did before. Sometimes people use difficult names and you will simply not follow what they're trying to point out. Ask them to simplify it for you.

    Of course, you don't always have to listen to the advice others give you. It IS your work, you can't let them take over everything you have made.

    I want to add one last detail to this entire story. Giving the excuse: "This is MY style." is hardly an excuse. Making errors is not part of a style.

    GIVING CRITICISM.


    Well, let's clear this up for the criticizer. You are not awesome, you are not great, you don't know anything best, you aren't all high and mighty because you have done something longer and YOU ARE NOTHING.

    I'm harsh aren't I? Well, of course you are obligated to an opinion. But you have to realize that you are no better than another human being. Equality. If you put down harsh words they will probably be thrown back in your face within a year, because the person you insulted with your harsh words will be better than you are. KARMA.

    With this said, let's get this on with.


    The difference between constructive and de-motivational criticism.


    Examples of constructive criticism:
    "This isn't really well done, but by editing _____ it could be better."
    "Try putting more pressure in your pencil at that spot."

    With criticism like this, people will understand what to do and where they are lacking.

    Demotivating criticism is harsh and straight, to the point. I will be honest about it, I'm very harsh myself. But I try to add in compliments if it's possible.

    Examples:
    "This is god ugly, my eyes burn."
    "DIE!! U SHULD DIE 4 MAKING ME SADZ WITH YOUR HORRIFIC SKILZ."

    Look, now you can think "everyone does it." But saying things like this doesn't help anyone. You only start fights and unhappy faces.

    Always try to support your opinion. In a way people can really make use of it. There are exceptions of course. Sometimes it's just so god ugly that you can't go on anymore without saying that someone totally failed it. Well, you have the words "Practice a bit more" for that. In most cases, it really just is a matter of practice. Only a few artists are born with talent. And even those people have to practice their skills to improve.


    Forming your comment.


    First step; find an error or dislike something. That shouldn't be too hard should it? Only if you are 100% sure something has to be edited and if you are 100% sure that your solution would work out for it, you should state it. Half assed messages don't work. This doesn't mean you can't make suggestions though.

    Start by naming all the errors. After that, look if it's not just your opinion. If you really realize that it's not just your opinion and a serious mistake, start forming your message. (GIVING YOUR OPINION AND GIVING SUGGESTIONS IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING THOUGH). Always support your message with solid proof. Nothing is wrong and nothing is ugly without a reason.

    Give as many options to the artist as you can, in how they can change something. Look at the thing your criticizing from different perspectives. From your own and from the artist's. Considering why the artist made certain mistakes or decisions as well. This is also a great tip for the artist. Don't look only at what you like. You are making it for others to look at as well, so try to place yourself in the viewers mind.

    When you have formed your comment, check for mistakes. Spelling and grammar mistakes should be taken out as well (I'm such a hypocrite in this). Failed grammar is hard to be taken serious. Check if you weren't too harsh.


    Adjusting your level of speech.


    "The flow of your tag is totally incorrect. The typography has failed and you can't place your focal there."

    What the fuck are these things? Well, I understand them but a majority of us don't. Don't work with hard words. We are stupid artists, we will probably end up without a degree somewhere on the streets drawing people for money when the weather is lovely.

    Not everyone understands that a focal's the most important part of your work. Not everyone understands that typography is related to text. Not everyone understands what flow is and what a tag is. Even if these words are so logical to you, NOT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.

    You can't expect someone starts out as one of the most amazing artists in the world. This also means you have to explain certain parts about programs they might be using. Lower your level and point out where they can find certain things.


    Know what you are dealing with.


    Not everyone works with the most expensive software. Keep that in mind please. Digital work isn't always done with Photoshop. Hell, I've seen people own Photoshop users with freeware. If you don't know HOW to use the program, try not to meddle with how someone did use it. Simply because you can't know what went wrong.


    DETAILSDETAILSDETAILSDETAILSDETAILSDETAILS.


    WE FUCKING LOVE DETAILS. This could easily summarize the entire page (yeah you just read this for nothing and I wrote this for nothing because I can summarize it with this short ass summary... Lol @ sentence).

    Always stay detailed. Never skip something because you're lazy. Explain what's wrong for each pixel. JUST SAY IN DETAIL WHAT'S MISSING.


    Never forget.


    Start with a compliment. People dig compliments. Even if you don't even mean it. People will know that you appreciate their hard work, disregard the errors. Never write criticism when you're in a bad mood, you will only rage at people who don't deserve it.


    A small summary.


    What to do and what not to do:
    - Don't be picky. You can be annoying at some point.
    - Look at the whole image (full view) first. After that, start looking at details.
    - PARAGRAPHS. I hate walls of text without breaks between them.


    Shit-Posting
    1: The failure to make a constructive post
    2: The inability to add useful information to a forum
    3: Worthless overly offensive generally racists posts written in a manner which aggravates others.


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